Witness Underground with Scott Homan and Ryan Sutter

Scott Homan and Ryan Sutter
Scott Homan and Ryan Sutter
Scott Homan and Ryan Sutter

What’s it like to doubt the beliefs of the strict religious community you grew up with? What’s it like to leave? Where do you find the courage and strength to make that choice, and to adapt to your new life? Director Scott Homan and writer and musician Ryan Sutter have lived these questions, and collaborated to tell the story in the new documentary, Witness Underground. The film focuses on Ryan’s love of music and the musical relationships within the Jehovah’s Witness community that sustained him as a teen and gave him a safe place to land when he left. We talk about all these questions and the process of making the film, which is now running a Kickstarter to fund distribution to popular streaming services.

Episode breakdown:

[00:05:16] Scott: Wisconsin arts program shaped career in film.

[00:10:19] Change your environment for personal growth.

[00:14:10] Ryan: Creative kids form band with makeshift instruments.

[00:17:39] Creativity and emotional release through music.

[00:26:17] Other connections transcended religion, influencing change.

[00:30:07] Scott reconnects with Ryan.

[00:32:56] Ryan’s wrestling with beliefs through writing, recording music, and live performance = enhanced creative thinking.

[00:40:22] How authoritarian regimes suppress artists.

[00:44:37] “Coming out.”

[00:50:51] Seeing life through Ryan’s eyes.

[00:57:20] Amazing connection to music; influential, undiscovered collection.

[01:03:08] Ryan: Therapy, new albums, and a goal: move on and heal.

[01:09:26] Music connects people in amazing ways.

[01:15:05] Scott: Filmmaker’s struggle with distribution, potential exploitation.

[01:19:24] Kickstarter campaign funding distribution of the film, which has amazing perks including music and written work.

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Show links

Witness Underground’s website/Kickstarter





XJW | Coming Out series on YouTube


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